A Conversation

Ira Weiss: “I am old. When I was a kid, lynchings were still going on in many states. If an African American stood up to demand equal rights, he would be dragged out of his home and shot or beaten to death. Or, crowds of white townspeople would gather to watch him be hanged from a tree.
Then, I witnessed the growth of non-violent resistance to bring change. African Americans and their white allies would stand together refusing to obey segregationist orders by the police. When they were arrested, they went limp. Some in the resistance died in the struggle. But, the non-violent resistance resulted in a series of civil rights laws and brought a permanent end to lynching parties in Alabama.
If the resistance had been armed and used weapons against the police, there would probably still be segregation and lynchings in Alabama.
If the resistance had been characterized by an intifada of bombs being tossed into whites-only pizzerias and discos, or by thousands of rockets launched towards Atlanta, Jackson, and Montgomery neighborhoods, I think I would we would have had a civil war between the white and black communities in America. Given the imbalance of power, the outcome of that war would almost certainly have been the decimation of African American communities in the United States.”

Ron Harold: “I happen to know a lot about a lot of things, especially what Jewish gangs did to the Palestinians to steal their land…..I don’t think it’s exactly kosher to be comparing the Jewish gang theft and displacement of 800,000 Palestinians with your hypothetical dream of blacks starting an American civil war, attacking whites with an ‘intifada of bombs’ and ‘thousands of rockets.’ I know that you must know better than nonchalantly mischaracterizing blacks as the evil aggressors of murder and death, when in fact the reality of history is the very exact opposite.”

Ira Weiss: “Ron Harold, You accuse me of ‘nonchalantly mischaracterizing blacks as the evil aggressors of murder and death.’ In fact, I did the very exact opposite. I compared the oppressed blacks to the oppressed Palestinians and their white oppressor to the Israelis.”
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Ron Harold: “Ira Weiss That is an invalid comparison. You failed.

But you succeeded in alienating yourself from others reading what you wrote. No one thinks you made a good comparison; in fact, people have voiced their opposition to your invalid comparison.

Did you listen to those voices complaining about your invalid, inapplicable comparison? NO, YOU DIDN’T.

INSTEAD, you’re DOUBLING DOWN on your invalid comparison.

I could fill this thread with a long list of VALID REASONS why your comparison is categorically invalid.

For starters, your comparison falsely pre-supposes Israelis enjoy a legal right to stand on Palestinian soil and kill and maim Palestinians with weapons that have MADE-IN-THE-USA stamped on the side of those weapons.

CONVERSELY, white and black Americans both enjoy EQUAL RIGHTS to stand, breathe and live on U.S. soil.

Israelis ENJOY NO SUCH RIGHT TO STAND ON PALESTINIAN SOIL, KILLING, MAIMING AND TERRORIZING PALESTINIANS ON THEIR OWN HOMELAND.

I have seen this rodeo more than once in my life from American Jews making invalid comparisons between Americans standing on U.S. soil with the plight of Israeli Jews or Palestinians in the Palestinian territories.

It is HIGHLY INAPPROPRIATE to compare the murder and abuse of blacks in America to what the Israelis have done and continue to do to Palestinians.

Are white people militarily blockading blacks with tanks and armored personnel carriers from leaving a small area their entire lives, such as Israel has been doing to the people of Gaza for years?

Are white people gassing entire neighborhoods and keeping Palestinians on lockdown as the Israeli military has been doing to Palestinians for decades?

Are white people operating the world’s largest open air prison in these United States such as the Israelis have been operating for years in Gaza?

Are white people denying blacks food, water, medical supplies and freedom in a 120 square mile area in America such as Israelis have been doing to Gazans for years?

I could go on and on and on about your invalid comparison between racism in America and what the Israelis have been doing to the Palestinians for decades. You should be ashamed of yourself.
What did you do with your conscience?

What really pisses me off about your invalid comparisons is YOU KNEW when you wrote this false dichotomy if anyone tried to discount or dispell your comparisons, you would be putting anyone opposing your comparison in a precarious position of potentially having to defend the racist abuse and murder of blacks at the hands of white racists.

One would have to be in possession of true knowledge of Israel’s crimes against the Palestinian people to overcome your silly, pitiful comparison between racism in America and what the Israelis have done to the Palestinian people since the day in 1948 (NAKBA) when Jewish terrorist gangs infamously terrorized and displaced 800,000 Palestinians off their own homeland, herding them into tent cities in the desert for years.

I won’t dignify the remainder of your sick, twisted invalid comparisons. You had the option to tell and discuss the truth of these matters, but you didn’t.
Instead, you made these horrific realities your personal public playtoys.”

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CAPICE, BRO?
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Apparently you’re unable or unwilling to address racism in America without invoking Israel’s 60+ year long illegal military occupation of the Palestinian territories, murder and abuse of the Palestinian people.

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